i'm not trying to defend anyone's actions including mine, but i can certainly see how many of us feel anger.... my father is a sucessful business man, loved in the community by the "worldly" and the jws alike; he's also very logical in almost everyway until we talk about the witnesses.
becasue he's so chrismatic, he's played a role in converting almost everyone in the family-i'm irish so it's one darn big family, into being devout jws.
when i think about how much i love my dad, and my family and couple that with the fact that the only beef we have with one another is the fact that i see through the gb lies; it makes me mad that the love i once felt will never be there again becasue of this division.
So eventhough the company is practically in the trash, they're holding on to their stock hoping it will rise in value again
somehow and they will finally get their invesment back and then some. Can't risk selling off now!
Such a good analogy, Journey On!
i'm not trying to defend anyone's actions including mine, but i can certainly see how many of us feel anger.... my father is a sucessful business man, loved in the community by the "worldly" and the jws alike; he's also very logical in almost everyway until we talk about the witnesses.
becasue he's so chrismatic, he's played a role in converting almost everyone in the family-i'm irish so it's one darn big family, into being devout jws.
when i think about how much i love my dad, and my family and couple that with the fact that the only beef we have with one another is the fact that i see through the gb lies; it makes me mad that the love i once felt will never be there again becasue of this division.
That's what trips to the range are for, dump a few mags of 7.62x39 into a target, you feel better.
I'm not a gun person, RollerDave, but that sounds like a lot of fun. Maybe I could try a little boxing or archery, too, putting watchtower mags on the target.
i'm not trying to defend anyone's actions including mine, but i can certainly see how many of us feel anger.... my father is a sucessful business man, loved in the community by the "worldly" and the jws alike; he's also very logical in almost everyway until we talk about the witnesses.
becasue he's so chrismatic, he's played a role in converting almost everyone in the family-i'm irish so it's one darn big family, into being devout jws.
when i think about how much i love my dad, and my family and couple that with the fact that the only beef we have with one another is the fact that i see through the gb lies; it makes me mad that the love i once felt will never be there again becasue of this division.
I can certainly see how someone may snap in a moment of dispair.
And despair is just what they want us to feel. It is very easy to relate to what you're saying.
One of my most memorable conversations with my younger sister is where she tells me if only I would "open my mind and research" ghoulhovah's word . . . talk about despair, angst, anger, grief . . . how about you open your mind, sis, and research your cult religion?
If only I would open my mind, coming from brainwashed cult members!! It would be laughable if it weren't so angering.
I am sorry for this, too. I love my family and wish I could have a relationship with them, but their choices, not mine, make it impossible to have a healthy relationship, and I'd rather not have an unhealthy one.
Theychooseto blame us for their own intellectual laziness, and that is quite a shame and quite a waste, more for them than for us, I believe; but, still painful to be shut out for simply disagreeing with such silly ideas.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/143755/1.ashx.
i posted this oct 8, '07.
backgroud: i am a 5th generation jw.
I wonder what you will find if you type "angry rants" into the search function here? More than you're asking for, no doubt.
Edited to say that as of 2:49 pm edlt, well over 18,000 results for angry rants in both text and titles on all topics.
celebrate christmas.
be a grown up every dang day
face painful crap and not bury it
be responsible for my reality
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well ive been raised in the truth for 20 years, and serve as an ms, but have overtime realized that its not actually the "truth".. any thoughts on how to best let it be known that im not interested in being a witness, and once thats accomplished how to assimilate myself into.
the "world", since ive been shut off from it for my whole life and programmed to believe every non witness is only interested in hurting others.. any thoughts would be helpful.
Any thoughts on how to best let it be known that im not interested in being a witness
It depends on your personal/family circumstances. For some, a quick clean break is best, while others take the slow fade and gradually introduce new ideas to loved ones.
A number of people here have tried both and a number of us have made mistakes in how we approached it all, but we did not have the support that's here; so, take advantage of it. There are a number of ex-elders and elders on the way out here.
Good luck and congrats!
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/143755/1.ashx.
i posted this oct 8, '07.
backgroud: i am a 5th generation jw.
Sorry about that, Renee. Abandonment sucks, no matter how old or young we are.
hitler, lenin, stalin, mao et al: .
(the heart of this statement is: darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species..were created by god....) .
1856; d. 1939) sigmund freuds impact on 20th century thinking is almost too great to measure.
So you claim "good works" to prove there is no God?
No. "Good works" are simply part of the evolution of man, as is our culture, including religion, wars, and other bad works.
ever see those two british women on tv that go into some slob's home that looks like something out of a stephen king novel?
take their quiz to see if you're a neat-freak, or a sloth-in-waiting: http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/100/quiz.jsp.
here's mine:.
Some of that's true.Oh whatever shall I do? Clean? Oh, how mean!
that's my conclusion.
they don't stand for anything anymore.
they used to be known as "bible students" but not anymore.
What purpose?
